Man dont know why this had to be brought up agaim, ban the glitch? thats a crazy idea, i dont think anyone wants to go through the charts and pick out when d-speed/m-speed was used, its just not possible same goes for unleashed, to ban it the charts would have to be nuked and everyone would have to start a fresh, which cant happen. Complaints have been that its so hard unless you use a rubber band or something, almost impossible, well first off this is coming from a banned member, so I dont know why they are trying to change the rules (yer i got that alot too when i was banned :P) and second of all its easy to pull off, the upright method i get virtually every time, and the tilt forward i get most of the time too, just practice, you dont ban something just because its very hard, otherwise loads of glitches would have to be banned on tsc cos they're very tough to pull off.